Session 1675 (Private/Phone)
December 12, 2004
Preliminary Transcript
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ioanna (Iona)
Elias: Good afternoon!
Ioanna: Hi Elias. (both laugh) It's nice to hear your voice again.
Elias: And you also.
Ioanna: Um, I guess I just want to start off with a little statement.
Elias: Very well.
Ioanna: I've always enjoyed my sessions with you, but I was also worried at times how other people may perceive them as being maybe frivolous or silly at times, so I just wanted to say that this is my third session, and I am feeling much more relaxed, and not so concerned about how others will perceive it. I think it's more because I'm trusting myself, and not worried about being wrong anymore.
Elias: (chuckles) And I may express my congratulations to you.
Ioanna: Thank you.
Elias: Ha ha ha ha
Ioanna: Um, could I start off with some impressions for people, their family stats?
Elias: Very well.
Ioanna: My essence twin's friend is named ****, and I wanted to know if she is Sumari belonging and Borledim aligned?
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Ok, and there's a new member of the darlings named Margaret, and she wanted to know if she was Milumet belonging and either Sumari or Vold aligned?
Elias: Vold
Ioanna: Vold, ok, and is she soft and emotional?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And Baruch had an impression for her essence name, but I can't figure out how to say it so I'll spell it. It's...and maybe you can tell me how to say it...it's, R I A T H E A.
Elias: That would be a focus name.
Ioanna: A focus name. Could you give me her essence name?
Elias: Essence name, Madison.
Ioanna: Madison, ok, great, and um, for Vinu's girlfriend ******, is she Sumafi belonging and Vold aligned?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And is she political and common?
Elias: Yes
Ioanna: And could I get an essence name for my friend Dom?
Elias: Essence name, Max.
Ioanna: Max?
Elias: Yes
Ioanna: Ok, and is the Greek titan Prometheus a translation of a focus of his?
Elias: Yes
Ioanna: And is Io, Princess of Argos, a translation of a focus of mine?
Elias: Yes
Ioanna: And last we spoke I mentioned that he speaks to another focus of mine, named, who goes by the name Jemima, and she's in another dimension, and we were wondering ... we had some chats with her through him... and we were wondering if she is actually a focus that's still in transition...in the area which is transition?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Thank you. That's a big help. (Elias chuckles) Ok, um, for several months now I've been seeing 444 imagery, and the other night I was sort of connecting to you and all of a sudden it kind of hit me that the 444 is a connection to you and... well, first is that true?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: And does that have anything to do with the focuses we share in this dimension?
Elias: In what capacity?
Ioanna: Because the first time we spoke you told me we shared 44, and I wanted to know if it was connected to that? Has there been an increase in focuses or...
Elias: No increase, but the 4s are your imagery of connection to myself.
Ioanna: Ok, and are you my grandfather in a focus where I basically adore you?
Elias: (chuckles) Yes!
Ioanna: Thank you. I dreamt that one. Um, lets see, this was almost a year ago I guess, I had had a dream where you told me that I would no longer be a part of the forum at some point, and that I would no longer... and that my partner would no longer be in my life, and uh, it was sort of a disturbing dream, and since then he's had some health problems, and I was curious...if... was the dream connected to his health problems?
Elias: No, but, it was associated imagery with death, but not of your partner.
Ioanna: Ok. Um, actually there's been several people in my family diagnosed with cancer recently. Was it connected to that?
Elias: No! It was associated with the imagery of death.
Ioanna: Just death in general?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Oh, ok.
Elias: More so in association with yourself and in how you associate with death.
Ioanna: Oh, ok. Um, could you tell me... um, we feel his health problems are connected to his red energy center... could you tell me a little about what he's doing there? Why he's creating this now?
Elias: Be more specific.
Ioanna: Um, well he's... I am not quite sure how to say it... He's just having, like some problems, um... where he's having difficulty with finding a job and things like that, and I was curious if the issues he's creating now has to do with that, and also with his sexuality as well, as far as like maybe some guilt, residual guilt, over a relationship he was in about a year ago?
Elias: Partially, and also partially shielding himself from exposure...
Ioanna: Oh ok
Elias: ...and the exposure that is expressed in intimacy, but the issue of exposure is being expressed in many different directions not merely sexuality.
Ioanna: Ok, and um, is there anything we can do right now to... to like move past this?
Elias: It is a matter of allowing and therefore being open to receiving. The automatic association with exposure is that you generate a vulnerability that is almost viewed as a negative, but in recognizing that without exposure you cannot receive. That information is affecting of perception and may be more motivating to an individual to be allowing themselves to be expressing more openness and more of an exposure to allow them to receive more fully.
Ioanna: Can I ask you if my partner and essence twin are sharing counterpart action in this?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: They are, and.. ok, because um, my essence twin Elan says that... He and I in the past few months have tried to go separate ways, but then have decided to stay friends, but he says that when he connects to me he still feels a lot of fear is this also connected to my partner, the fear? And he also says that he also has this problem where he's talking to me and his legs shake involuntarily.
Elias: Which also would be associated with exposure.
Ioanna: So they're both sort of connecting...
Elias: Yes! Yes!
Ioanna: Ok. Uh, so both of them, basically, in allowing themselves to expose more will be able to move through these situations?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And I think right now I've been exposing of myself is this, is this an example for them?
Elias: Yes, but also may be perceived as somewhat threatening...
Ioanna: Yes...
Elias: For there is a fear of their own exposure and in reflecting an openness that generates somewhat of a threateningness within them.
Ioanna: Thank you. Ok, so I think I'm going to... I think I do understand this pretty well with the two of them, and for me the best I can do is to continue focus on myself and... and be an example.
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: Ok.
Elias: And to be supportive in acceptance.
Ioanna: Thank you, yes. Can we move on now to some focus questions?
Elias: You may.
Ioanna: First of all, I want to ask if I have a focus, [current timeframe] or had a focus, as a baby whale that was killed soon after it was born by orcas, after they isolated it from its mother?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: And, my youngest son drew a picture that looks very much like the picture Oscar Wilde had drawn on an envelope that he kept his baby sister Isola’s hair in, and I was wondering if my son is observing of Oscar Wilde?
Elias: Observing of the sister.
Ioanna: Oh ok, and Awan had the impression that Isola Wilde was my focus?
Elias: Also observing.
Ioanna: Ok. Is that for the lifetime?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Short life but... ok, thank you, and is... There's a man who lived in Alaska in Twin Lakes for 30 years alone named Richard Proenneke, was he a focus of Tarmak?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: And is Robert Burns, I think he's a poet, a focus of Tarmak?
Elias: Observing.
Ioanna: Observing, is that for the lifetime?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Thank you, um. Do I have a female focus named Margaret who raises wolf dogs in Alaska?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And did she and I recently do some kind of exchange for a day where I felt, I felt like, I was not me, I knew I was me, but I felt I wasn't me and that I wanted to be with my dogs in Alaska?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: Thank you, ok, and she also, well me as I know me, actually experienced the same in her body?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: Oh great. Um, Dawn had an impression, Awan, that Elan and I have focuses as her children... her focus Shahjahan... that we’re her children Prince Dara and Princess Jahanara?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: Ok, and I'm Jahanara and he's Dara?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Thank you. Um, this question is about Don, Don/Allard, and he and I have made an interesting little connection, and we feel that he and I like to explore focuses where I am what is good and he is evil, but probably in other dimensions, is that true?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And, um...
Elias: And some in this dimension also.
Ioanna: (laughs) Can you tell me how many focuses he and I share?
Elias: 19
Ioanna: I'm sorry?
Elias: 19
Ioanna: 19, ok, and that's in this dimension?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Um, the next question is... I had a dream where I was talking to Elan and he was telling me that I was the woman mentioned briefly in a story in the Bible, and after that I started seeing, um, little programs about the Bible and one woman mentioned frequently was Tamar, and I wanted to know if Elan was Absalom and I was... and my focus is Tamar, the children of King David?
Elias: The first observing, the latter correct.
Ioanna: Ok, so mine is correct and his is observing.
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: Ok great, and is Elan, I'm sorry, is Moses a focus of Elan?
Elias: No.
Ioanna: Ok, is he observing or counterpart, anything with Moses?
Elias: Partial counterpart.
Ioanna: Partial?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Ok. Could I ask you what the essence animals for Mark and Dawn are?
Elias: First individual may be likened to a polar bear.
Ioanna: A polar bear!? Oh great! And for Dawn?
Elias: That energy would be likened to a sailfish.
Ioanna: I'm sorry, what is that?
Elias: A sailfish.
Ioanna: A sailfish?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Ok. Cool. Um, let's see. I know that Mark has a focus as Boudicca and Dawn has a focus as her daughter...and I was wondering if I was the second daughter?
Elias: Observing and counterpart.
Ioanna: Ok, am I also observing of Boudicca?
Elias: Partial.
Ioanna: Partial. Um, let's see. About a year ago I guess I had a dream which was quite vivid, and then afterwards I started having, um, movie-like visions of a focus that would, uh, that would've been in France I believe, and in the focus a group of us from the Darlings, I think, 14 15 of us had a focus where we were prostitutes. Was that, is that an actual focus?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: And I... Can I ask for the names? I have, uh, some name impressions. The following were the prostitutes. The first one was Adélaïde and that was for Lucille.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: The second one is Cécile and that was for Sandel.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Uh, the next one is Camille and that was for Camille.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Next we have Collette and that was for Calum.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Um, Élise for Myranda.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Émilie for Awan.
Elias: Michelle.
Ioanna: Michelle? Ok, and, um, Laurence for Lawrence.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Madeleine for me?
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Marguerite for Giselle.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Maryse for Becca.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Paulette for Samira.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Sophie for Conner.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: And, this, the following were not prostitutes but they were part of the focus. Odette was, which was Collette's daughter for Francine.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Uh, Thomas for Elan?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Uh, Frédéric for Paneus.
Elias: François.
Ioanna: François? He was François! We were wondering who François was. (laughing)
Elias: (chuckling)
Ioanna: Ok, and Jean-Paul for Rrussell.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Ok, so, um, was the François the one that was the actual...I don't want to call him a pimp, but I don't know what they would've called him.
Elias: (chuckles)
Ioanna: But at first we all thought that would've been your focus that he was the man who took care of all the girls.
Elias: No.
Ioanna: I'm sorry?
Elias: No.
Ioanna: It wasn't you, was it Paneus or was there another man that was sort of in charge?
Elias: The latter.
Ioanna: Oh, another man?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Ok, so we did have a couple other impressions on that and they would've been Baruch.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: It was Baruch?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: That's great, and we thought his [Baruch] name was François, could you give us that name? Or should I say I thought his name was François.
Elias: (chuckles) Jean-Henri
Ioanna: I'm...could you spell that?
Elias: Jean-Henri.
Ioanna: Oh, ok. Um, let's see. Wow that was... that was great, I did good on that one! (laughs)
Elias: Ha ha ha ha
Ioanna: Um. Oh I have a friend named Tim, who... who wanted to know if you are the one who flashed his power on and off a few months ago?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: It was, so that was an introduction?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Great. Um, this is another impression for Awan. She thought that Vinu had a focus as the Earl of Rothes who was my focus' husband.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And, was the second husband of my focus, I don't have his name, but was he a focus of Elan?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Thanks. Um, Dawn and Mark have a focus in Saudi Arabia where they're both in love with a woman named Jasmine. Is that a focus of mine?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: And... Ooh, this is sort of the big one. In the Inmi group, which has recently been revived, we've been exploring, um, what is the comic book series called ElfQuest, and I have a list of names for those of us who would have translations that are similar to those characters.
Elias: Very well.
Ioanna: Ok. For myself, this series is one that I was totally taken with when I was 19, and just, I felt like I was there which I didn't understand at the time, so... For myself I feel I have several focuses there but two characters really stand out for me and their names would be Timmain and Leetah.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And for Elan I have... um, I'll wait on that one. For Dawn I have Savah.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And for Tarmak I have a focus, Tildak?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And for my youngest son, the focus is the son of my focus Leetah, which in the series is named Suntop.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And he also feels that he has a focus there as the character Rayek. That was his impression.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Ok, and for my daughter, Bellen, Newstar?
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: My friend Dom, or Max, Timmorn, the son of my focus Timmain.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: And for Allard, Lord Vol?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And for Lucille, Winowill? [I knew as soon as I asked that this was not a focus of Lucille’s and that it was actually a focus of Jene’s which was later confirmed.)
Elias: No.
Ioanna: Yes or no?
Elias: No.
Ioanna: No, ok. For Gillian, Ari, Petalwing?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: For KC, Nonna?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And Nonna’s mate, Adar, would that be a focus of Arkandin?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And for Ashrah, Daryl, is her focus there...I have two, one is Ausra and one is Deerstorm.
Elias: The latter.
Ioanna: Deerstorm, ok. And for Sandel, a focus which is also a wavedancer called Sandsparkle?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And another one for KC, which is Aroree?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And for Paneus' one named Zhantee?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And then for... I'm not sure how this works, but is there an observing essence type thing going on there as well? In other dimensions do they still...
Elias: Yes...
Ioanna: Ok, because I have an impression that in other dimensions it's not quite like this one?
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Is there actually situations where they double or triple up, but there's no like directing, it's sort of like all of them are directing.
Elias: It is dependent upon the physical dimension, but yes that is an expression that occurs in other physical dimensions.
Ioanna: Oh, great. Um, ok, with that I wanted to ask if for my... for Elan I wanted to know if he is also part of the focus that my son is, as Rayek?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And for him, there, another one Cutter, which was Leetah’s mate, and for that one I also want to know if Tarmak was a also a part of that?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Thank you, and we had an impression, Dawn and I, that this dimension was not the same as The Lord of the Rings.
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: This a dimension that would be more... in the story these were more like alien type beings that had traveled to a planet with two moons, and were Elven once they settled. I know it's a translation but...
Elias: Correct.
Ioanna: Would the two moons apply to where they are?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Oh great! Um. I wanted to ask if Awan and I have a soft pyramid going and Vinu is also a part of that?
Elias: That is a potential.
Ioanna: So it's not at this point?
Elias: Correct, but it is a potential that you may create.
Ioanna: Ok, and is it also a potential that Daryl, Ashrah, would be a part of that?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Ok. And my youngest son has a... he writes stories, and in one of his stories I am a character called Aspyn. Is this based on a focus?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And, I guess I could just ask are his other characters for himself and those he's identified, correct as well? I don't have them with me.
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: Oh, he'll be so happy to hear that. Um, do I have a focus as a famous poet?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Is it Sylvia Plath?
Elias: No.
Ioanna: Yes?
Elias: No!
Ioanna: Am I observing her?
Elias: Partial.
Ioanna: Partial, ok. I guess I'd like to ask a question about sexual energy. I've had people express to me that I give off a sexual energy when... when that's not my intention, and I wanted to know if this is just something in their perception, or is this something I'm projecting unknowingly or...?
Elias: I may express to you it is an energy that you are projecting, but it is not necessarily a sexual energy. It is perceived in that manner. It is translated in that manner as it is received, but it is not actually projected in that manner. At times individuals may be projecting a strength in energy and it may be translated in that manner for that is a familiar association with some types of strong energy, and at times that is also the translation that individuals my automatically generate in relation to the energy being expressed in an attractiveness and a strength. It is an automatic association rather than genuinely evaluating the energy that is being received, and understanding what is being received. You are not projecting an energy that you are unaware of, and that you are not intending.
Ioanna: Ok.
Elias: It is merely being translated in that manner by other individuals for that is an automatic response to certain types of projected energy, which is quite similar to automatic translations that most individuals generate in relation to attraction. If an individual is experiencing an attraction to another individual the automatic association with the attraction is sexual which it may not be...
Ioanna: Right, right!
Elias: But that is an automatic response.
Ioanna: Right. I'm glad to know this because sometimes I wonder if I am putting something out that I am not aware of.
Elias: No, I may assure you that you are not expressing that type of energy with other individuals. You ARE expressing an attractive energy, for you are allowing yourself to being more expressive of yourself, and you are allowing yourself much more of your freedom, and that is recognized in an attractive manner, and that influences the automatic response and association of sexual. But I am aware that you are not generating an energy that is intended to be received in that manner.
Ioanna: Thank you so much. (laughs)
Elias: You are welcome. (chuckles)
Ioanna: I had an experience yesterday, and I just thought at the... really to put it on my questions today. Um, someone contacted me...there was a brief encounter and I had a very very strong reaction to it. I don't know this person. Well first start off by saying that when I was 13 I was held at knife point by a girl who, ended up years later killing 5 or 6 people, and then her brother also kidnapped me for a night when I was 13, and later on I got this fascination with serial killers, and you had confirmed that I had been a victim of one in another focus, and in this focus I always had this really odd feeling, not scared really, but like this feeling that that could be chosen again, not that I would, but that it was a possibility, and when this person contacted me yesterday I had like this really... a reaction to him, and I was wondering if that person was the serial killer in that focus you had confirmed for me?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: It was? Ok. So that's the reaction, and if I were to contact this person now it would be totally ok?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: (laughs) Thank you!
Elias: (chuckles)
Ioanna: (laughs) I was nervous. I mean they look like a perfectly nice person, but the reaction was very strong. Um, last week Dawn and I were on the computer and we were chatting, and I heard a sneeze so I... I said bless you to my partner just as he was typing it on Messenger to me, and neither of us sneezed but Dawn said she had. Was that her sneeze we heard?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Wow! Was it a projection?
Elias: A connection in energy.
Ioanna: Oh.
Elias: Which does not require projecting.
Ioanna: Right. That was really cool.
Elias: (chuckles)
Ioanna: Can you tell me how many future focuses I have, because I don't think there are very many.
Elias: You recognize that that fluctuates.
Ioanna: Ok.
Elias: Presently I may express to you that you incorporate 21.
Ioanna: 21?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Wow, that's even more than I thought. I'm skipping all over the place here. (laughing)
Elias: (chuckles)
Ioanna: Oh, do I have a connection with the Marquis de Sade?
Elias: Counterpart.
Ioanna: Counterpart, wow. And, he was also connected to a 12 year old girl named Madeleine LeClerc, am I connected to her?
Elias: Observing.
Ioanna: Is that for her lifetime?
Elias: Yes!
Ioanna: I can't believe I've done so many of these questions. (laughing)
Elias: Ha ha ha
Ioanna: It's like amazing to me, I thought I'd never have enough time. Um, I guess, could we maybe talk a little bit more about what's going on with my essence twin relationship?
Elias: Very well.
Ioanna: Um, I guess I'm pretty confused by it because I was talking to Mary before how initially... there's such a strong connection between the two of us that I think we both automatically associated that with having to be together in this focus. But, I'm also in a relationship with someone I love very much and want to be in a relationship with, and this has caused a lot of problems for the two of us. I mean... actually I guess the three of us, but not so much... my, my partner's pretty accepting of this at least outwardly. Can you tell either of us something that would help us to understand this better and not have to go our separate ways because of it?
Elias: Remember, as we have discussed previously and have defined in our conversation attraction is not always equated with sexuality, BUT it is quite often automatically associated with that. Therefore, in generating that type of an association there are also other automatic triggers concerning relationships and romantic involvement and how that should be expressed and the expectations that are generated in association with romantic and sexual involvement. BUT, not all relationships are expressed in sexual manners or in romantic manners. BUT, that does not negate their potential for genuine intimacy. In objectively meeting an essence twin within physical focus, generally speaking the individuals would not necessarily generate a romantic relationship.
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Elias: The reason that individuals do not engage a romantic relationship in an association with essence twins, although it is not a rule, it is not that it may never occur, but generally speaking it does not. For, the connection and the intimacy between essence twins is so intense and so strongly expressed that the beliefs concerning romantic relationships would be counterproductive.
Ioanna: Well in that I know that the focuses I've connected to where he and I were romantically involved, usually ended in some kind of tragic way. Is that the reason why, the intensity?
Elias: That would be... yes.
Ioanna: Yes, and I also, I have had a session with Kris where he has said that in this focus, even though we're not romantically involved right now that we do have probable selves that did go on to form a romantic connection. And I was wondering... does that bleed-through to the two of us? Because he and I are both, he actually connects with two other focuses of our essence that there's a probability of them also meeting and getting together somehow, and I was wondering if after... if with the Shift would that lend energy to those types of relationships actually being more harmonious?
Elias: That is a potential.
Ioanna: It is?
Elias: For in the accomplishment of the Shift there is an acceptance of beliefs and much more of a clarity in awareness of the influences of beliefs and more of an objective ability to choose specific influences of beliefs, which you are moving into now, but are not generating as much clarity yet.
Ioanna: As it is now, I feel... I don't feel much acceptance from him much of the time for my expressions and the way I am.
Elias: I'm understanding.
Ioanna: I feel like I accept so much about him and genuinely appreciate him and I feel like sometimes he just can't get past some of the things that have happened.
Elias: But this also is associated with expectations.
Ioanna: Right.
Elias: In time frameworks in which individuals are expressing expectations they also generate blocking and obstacles and generate much more difficulty than they would be experiencing if they were not incorporating these expectations. AND, some expectations are not recognized for they are associated with the individual's truths.
Ioanna: Yes! Yes, ok.
Elias: And those are not yet recognized which is not unusual, and in this time framework this is the point of this wave. To be experiencing these truths but that also incorporates challenge for truths are those beliefs that you have generated into absolutes and therefore they are unquestioned, they merely are.
Ioanna: So when I see a lack of acceptance -- and in general I feel most people in my life are very accepting of me -- but when I generate it through... well him or through another person. Is it always reflecting a lack of acceptance within myself, or no?
Elias: Not necessarily. That is too black and white, too literal, and generating another absolute in association with mirroring. Reflecting is not mirroring.
Ioanna: That's what I thought, I mean a lot of times...
Elias: You may be reflecting some element to yourself to offer yourself information. You may be presenting to yourself information through another individual in their interaction with you, and in that, YOU may be reflecting to them. And in this you continue to each generate information for yourselves individually, BUT, as I have stated, reflecting is not mirroring. At times individuals generate certain expressions in interaction with other individuals and the reflection that they are presenting to themselves is designed to allow themselves the opportunity to view how they shall respond.
Ioanna: But that's what I... that was my impression with him and with another friend of mine, that in what I perceived as a lack of acceptance is actually an opportunity for me. And...
Elias: Yes. For it allows you to be aware of yourself and to be aware of your choices of how you respond rather than merely generating automatic responses.
Ioanna: Right, right! And, I know... I feel I'm starting to get better at not doing the auto thing.
Elias: (chuckles) It is merely a matter of practice.
Ioanna: Yes. Well you've been a help in that. (laughs)
Elias: Ha ha ha!
Ioanna: Um, I, oh I guess with... just one last thing on that. So, there is the probability that he and I at some future time could have a very different... accepting both sides of it... very accepting of each other?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Right. Um, and I have another focus for... this is sort of a joint impression of Mark, Dawn, and myself. Do we have a focus in Ireland where my focus... Dawn and I are sisters and we're maids that work for Mark's focus, Patrick, Dawn's focus would be Abigail and mine Amanda?
Elias: Yes
Ioanna: And Patrick's mother is a focus of Becca named Maude, her name was Maude?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And do they have... Patrick has two dogs: Alfred and Rex.
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Is this in the early 1700s or 1800s?
Elias: 17
Ioanna: 17, around 1732?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Mark will be happy about that. (laughs)
Elias: Ha ha ha
Ioanna: And also, Mark connected to a focus where the four of us: Mark and Dawn, my partner and I; we share a focus in France, in the future. I think my focus is born around 2015.
Elias: 2115.
Ioanna: 2115, ok and the rest are close within a couple years of each other?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Great. I can't believe I got my whole list...
Elias: (laughs)
Ioanna: Another thing. My friend Omar, would the god Poseidon be a translation of a focus he has?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: And do I have a focus as a mermaid?
Elias: An other-dimensional focus.
Ioanna: Right, right!
Elias: Yes, yes.
Ioanna: Thank you! (giggles)
Elias: You are quite welcome.
Ioanna: I think I achieved what I intended, and that was to have a very fun session.
Elias: (laughs) And I shall express my congratulations to you again. (chuckles)
Ioanna: Thank you. I'm still working on the focuses we share. Are you my grandfather in more than one focus?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Yes. I get a very strong, like, feeling of just adoring you as my grandfather. (laughs)
Elias: (chuckles)
Ioanna: So could you give me a hint and a timeframe?
Elias: One within early 1800s, one within late 1600s.
Ioanna: Ok. Are they both in Europe?
Elias: Yes.
Ioanna: Yes.
Elias: And now you may generate your treasure hunt!
Ioanna: (laughs)
Elias: (chuckles)
Ioanna: Ok, by the time I have my next session perhaps I'll figure out all 44 of our focuses!
Elias: AH! That would be an accomplishment! (laughs)
Ioanna: Not that ambitious huh? (laughs)
Elias: (laughs)
Ioanna: Thank you so much Elias!
Elias: You are very welcome my friend. I anticipate our next meeting and I offer my encouragement and my supportiveness to you. In great lovingness and affection as always, in friendship to you. Au revoir.
Ioanna: I love you too, Elias! Goodbye.
